Review of WordPress Themes by WordPress Station
July 7th, 2006 in WordPress ThemesOur WordPress themes have received an analysis which appeared in a review, “Template Monster Themes†of July 6th, 2006 in WordPress Station. Michael B. (the owner of WordPress Station) made a post on his blog about our free WordPress themes after trying out some of them back in February of 2006.
When we started producing WordPress themes on regular basis we got word to Michael that we would like for him to review the new designs. So he chose one and did the analysis. Michael went on record, he essentially found our WordPress Templates to be limited in its use of CSS and XHTML. He had some nice things to say about our graphics and pricing.
In the WordPress Station article Michael goes on to say that he believes Template Monster will continue to develop WordPress Templates for the changing needs of the WordPress community. Yes, Template Monster has many, many choices for a well designed, good looking WordPress Template, and they provide a great start for blogs that have a specific theme in mind.
And now some answering statements from our Production Team:
One thing I’d suggest to Template Monster is to incorporate the use of the widgets plugin…
1. There are many different plug-ins for WordPress which improve the experience for both bloggers and readers alike. Template Monster does not (and nobody should) guarantee that all users will want even the most popular of them. When starting this product line our aim was to provide a basic product as soon as possible. Which is what we provided. Now with some experience with WordPress templates sales and technical support statistics we will add more features to our themes. We are actively moving to production of three-column themes (as you may know we already provide two-column themes) which will give our clients more options to play with the blocks and structure. The next step will be widgets. As with any product line we must develop, release and incorporate changes into our products that have been tested in both spheres: technical and market demand. This takes time, but getting it right is not just a matter of creativity, it is also a matter of supplying what the market needs. We will accelerate our production in WordPress Templates because the blogosphere is a fastest evolving field in Web.
Now, onto the the move from tables to CSS/XHTML.
2. About CSS: The aim here is to make sure these themes render the same under the major browsers. Using the display property of div tags in CSS is very good for the Mozilla family browsers. As for IE we use float property in CSS instead. Of course there are many different coding methods. We chose this one for its stability, and because our coder team is very familiar with this particular method - so we used what works and tests. The only bad thing about this method is that you will need to edit HTML along with CSS to customize the layout. We believe most of our WordPress customers use the theme as it is, without making changes to it. But we are currently conducting a special survey among our WordPress customers to find what changes are needed, if any.
Not to mention, there’s no h1 tag for the title…
3. As for h1 and h2 tags: In our understanding design is of greater value than SEO. We assume that those who do SEO for their blogs know how to add h1 and h2 tags. Those who don’t do SEO – wouldn’t care about it at all. You will need to add two more CSS styles (line-height and font-size) to add these tags. It’s not a big deal actually, but we are considering adding them to our new themes.
Template Monster Team









July 8th, 2006 at 8:17 pm
I’d like to clarify and ask for a few clarifications regarding a couple of things. First, the widgets plugin is slightly different from most plugins in that it still can be coded into a theme, but the option to use is at the end user any plugin can be coded in using if…else statements, but widgets are unique). Very few if any plugins that I’m aware of require the level of alteration to the template file (albeit minimal unordered lists and the addition of a functions file). My point regarding it is that it does require more than a simple one line function call like most plugins, and at the same time provides the new user the easy ability of adding content to the sidebar, a common practice among bloggers. I by no means suggest to Template Monster or any other theme developer that they MUST incorporate certain plugins. I simply thought that the target audience that Template Monster would attract, would not perhaps be as technically savvy as some, and would benefit from the option.
Second, I’m confused by the statement that using display property is good for Mozilla based browsers and float is better for IE. I’d love to hear more about that. At least in the theme that I examined, the design was a basic, two column theme with a header and footer. Most of which had background images. I would safely bet that I (or most CSS based designers) could code that without the use of any display:table and it would render just fine in both Mozilla based and IE browsers, as well as validate. I’d be glad to provide an example if someone was interested. I do understand that there are different ways of coding, but this discussion goes back to my original comments about using a Cameron Moll inspired design, but using tables instead of CSS.
Finally, I take issue with the statement of design taking greater value than SEO. I would argue that anyone purchasing a WP theme, when there are literally hundreds, if not a thousand by now, free themes, is looking to be found. I’m not talking about massive SEO, I’m talking about generally accepted design and coding standards. The page title is in an h1 tag. This can also get into the accessibility discussions, which I’m not as learned in as I’d like. Simply adding an h1 or h2 tag, styling it via the style sheet versus using some HTML inline sounds more like putting value on design to me.
Ultimately, the question is to what level of quality you want to offer your customer. If the value is simply based on graphical nature of the themes, then you’ve succeeded. However, from someone who’s both coded designs for a fee, as well as spent many, many hours volunteering in helping others modify existing designs, I think equal care should be taken to provide underlying XHTML and CSS that is both understandable for the end user, as well as written with the same care that goes into the core code of WordPress.
July 9th, 2006 at 12:57 am
Very good feedback Michael. I’m on your side. I think TM already did great job but there is always a way for improvements. Hope to see new themes with implemented features, suggested by Michael.
P.S. Most of free themes simply suck. They are too general. The choise is wide at teh first glance but you never find anything for your specific needs.
July 9th, 2006 at 7:45 pm
I love your designs and even bought one of your Wordpress templates. Sadly it did not meet my requirements and is unlikely to ever be used as a result.
I need plug-in support at the very minimum, but would like widget support as well. From my perspective is was not money well spent.
However, overall I really love your templates visually, but they lack the technical support that many Wordpress users require, plug-ins being a given.
July 10th, 2006 at 5:52 pm
You should listen to every bit of advice.
If you guys have a designer/coder who claims to be a professional, you should send him to observe the creators of the 900 FREE Wordpress themes who manage to make their template:
1. XHTML valid,
2. Tables free
3. Widgets ready
4. Have all it’s H tags in place
5. Don’t sacrifice SEO for design (that’s doable, you know) .
I’m a potential client, but I saw the mess in the free themes and I decided against paying 50$ when I can get something much, much better and more standard for free.
I actually think it’s quite a disgrace to chrage so much money for something so unprofessional and uncomplete.
July 12th, 2006 at 7:21 pm
i don`t know if this is the right place. But, how come moneybookers is no longer supported? Regards, Luka
July 18th, 2006 at 12:39 pm
All the advice given above should be listened to.I love the look of many of your themes, but until they are designed at Sarit say, I will not purchase one.
July 22nd, 2006 at 11:23 pm
The problem is that most of TemplateMonster coders simply lack the technical know-how to properly code a site. All HTML is coded in a very sloppy way and fail to meet all known web standards. If you’ve purchased any of their templates, you’ll see that their coding style is extremely sloppy.
In my opinion they should AT LEAST follow the recommendation of delivering a site that meet XHTML 1.0 strict standards and that utilizes a tableless design through CSS. This is the foundation of WordPress and the future of web design.
Widgets Ready & H1 tags are more “optional” features. Maybe they can produce such “compatibility” but sell it as a cheap add-on instead for those users that are looking at utilizing it.
July 23rd, 2006 at 10:43 am
This is not just WP… all templates in general… Yes its true template monster designs are very attractive and very colorful… but when it comes to complying with most of the well known web standards (including SEO, browser compatibility…) it’s a nightmare. I have purchased few from these guys but had heaps of problems getting the templates to work…and the worst part is cant get a simple answer from so called tech support… that’s the Technical standard of TM….
But I must admit…. I have seen far worse template designers…. And these guys are good…
July 28th, 2006 at 2:42 pm
I also would like to see that wordpress templates would support widgets!
August 17th, 2006 at 6:49 pm
Offer them widget ready or it’s a no go here guys. And train the customer support people on your live support to know what a widget is. I asked them and I could tell them didn’t have a clue what I was talking about.
September 24th, 2006 at 4:06 am
widgets, widgets, widgets. $52 for a WP design is a pretty good deal. WordPress is a massively featured and comprhensive Content Management System. The widgets, etc. are all PHP functions, that’s not REALLY part of the design aspect. I’m not a designer by nature, but WordPress is so easy to tweak PHP and CSS that the designs are well worth it. I think Template Monster is a good value for what you’re paying for. Besides, WP is such an open source community you can probably find help with most of your problems for free. If you’re looking for a massively functional corporate weblog, then you’re talking about more of an investment in backend strategy and hard coding and SEO that most designers just don’t do.
October 9th, 2006 at 9:20 am
I do not want to think that I was implying they are up to no good. I simply gave thorough review off ALL aspects of their themes. I think for the cost, to a new user who can’t afford to hire a designer, and want a themed design, they are great.
October 30th, 2006 at 5:34 pm
I also would like to see it
November 3rd, 2006 at 5:24 am
Hmm,i wouldn’t mind a peek myself.
January 6th, 2007 at 12:41 pm
The designs are very impressive, but I’d wished you guys took the time to test the templates on a real WordPress website. If you’re going to charge a premium fee for a template, take the time to test it in the real world first before offering it to the general public.
I would’ve done the following:
1. Design the template
2. Test it on Wordpress
3. Offer to Customers
3. Provide support
The steps above may look simple, but doing so will help potential customers buy it at the fair market price. Additionally, it will also justified the cost because you’ve confirmed that it’s 100% Wordpress compatible.
January 7th, 2007 at 9:15 am
Cool, i just bought one of your templates and i’m very satisfied with it! I plan on using it for my next project. Keep up the good work.
-John
January 9th, 2007 at 8:33 pm
Thanks for your appreciation:)
January 9th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
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I think we are following all these steps which you have mentioned. Nevertheless, thank you for your remarks and request. We will take them into consideration;)
Could I ask you about some problems which you have had with our templates. Have you tried to reach somebody from our support department?
Feel free to contact me via e-mail: irene@templatemonster.com
Have a good day!
January 18th, 2007 at 8:09 pm
I am currently shopping for a wordpress template and template monster comes into my mind. I would like to see widgets being incorporated as that’s one of the things that brings me to wordpress. Inclusion of as many social bookmarking widgets as possible would be even greater!
February 27th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
I love most of the TM templates, it’s good to see them getting recognition for the hard work that’s put in.
March 17th, 2007 at 12:57 am
I’m looking for some new WP templates anyone know of good sites?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Feel free to look for great WP themes here http://www.templatemonster.com/category/wordpress-themes/
Thank you for visiting and reading our blog.
March 31st, 2007 at 11:54 am
you have a great blogs that’s why i love it!
April 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pm
i want to see it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 6th, 2007 at 12:39 pm
I suspect that’s thereason general public want to read blog….Internet visitors generally create blogs to declare themselves or their secret views. Blog grant them same matter on the monitor screen what they specifically needed,so as the above stuffs declared it.
April 14th, 2007 at 11:42 am
After using the Anaconda Theme for some time, I did get a little dissatisfied about the width of the sidebar widgets. I.m.o. the theme looks professional but the total of everything made it a bit rag.
April 16th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Gerry, if you have some problems with our products you should contact our support department through ticket system esupport.template-help.com.
Feel free also to call 1-518-312-4147 or 1-518-320-8715
I hope it helps
April 25th, 2007 at 10:40 am
The templates are all well created but one thing, the products are in need of some attention and upgrade it. Will those widgets helps us in creating successful templates.
May 14th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Blog newsterII, thank you for your comment. Feel free to contact our support department to learn more about using widgets with our templates. you can submit a ticket through our ticket system esupport.template-help.com or just call 1-518-312-4147 or 1-518-320-8715.
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